User blog comment:Yuy168/Why Post-Scarcity Doesn't Work/@comment-4844180-20140131234206

I don't get why you had to point out weapons, but they could be there and be very abundant, just unneeded or unwanted. Just because something is there doesn't mean people want it, or that it is of value to the individual.

And some people (note, not all) would get to do some things. Work clubs could also be set up for the ones who want a life of what was before which doesn't affect anything of the structure. Not neccessarily a societal collapse. And that's only for basic humans (ie. generally in the society we know and seem to orientate on).

I do agree with the supply and demand thing, but it's not neccessary for population to increase at all. If population remains the same and resources get taken in more quickly then you could reach a post-scarce-like state.

It does not go against any form of government as post-scarce does not mean stagnant in culture or ideas. Post-scarce just gives abundance to everything. I know for some people the choice would be overwhelming, but if some were suddenly told "Do anything you want, we've got the supplies!" then some people would do it. There's still a level of risk to everything as you can't make everything safe. Post-scarcity won't make scuba-diving any less fun or writing a novel any less interesting.

You're only looking at one aspect of the post-scarce society. That overabundance means stagnation. It would only mean a stagnant industry and that's only in some areas. There could still be government, as it is after all an economic thing and not a political thing, and entertainment and religion and science and testing and research and so much more (more emphasise each time there is an "and" :P )

I think you need to see post-scarcity from another light, the one that offers abundance as a good thing. Government still has laws, abundance does not link to murdering people and could even decrease theft. Population can stay the same, abundance is not proportional to population growth (although admittedly it helps a lot). Creativity can stay the same or increase, abundance if anything could help with this as people could access more things at a similar price to everything else. Entertainment could increase as people have more time for accessing things they love.

Post Scarcity isn't all bad. The real problem here is trying to get money to work in a post-scarce system. To me that's just stupid, since you simply won't need it.

PS: If these points seem segmented, repeated or disjointed it is because different ideas came to me at different times,so sorry if this reads weirdly.