http://galactic-crucibles.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Krayfish/The_New_Galactic_Crucibles
Thanks for letting me know! Sorry, I've been forgetting to check ET Wiki since it hasn't been updated in a while.
The link doesn't seem to be working. However, this one does: http://omniversenexus.net/index.php?title=Special:WikiForum/An_update_on_Heroic_Ages_(finally!)
Anyway, I'll give it a read and then post my feedback. Looking forward to it!
The Omniverse Nexus site now has a forum feature! The extension is still in beta (as in, the creators of this extension haven't actually finished it yet) and stylewise, aesthetics isn't my forte, but the new site now has a discussion board. If you guys find it to be user friendly enough, we could very well be able to move away from wikia for good. Your feedback is essential. I need to know what kind of forums you want or any other features you might find more convenient.
So here's the forum itself: http://omniversenexus.net/index.php?title=Special:WikiForum
I also created a separate forum for all things related to Light World: http://omniversenexus.net/index.php?title=Special:WikiForum&forum=12
Blog pages are still nonfunctional though and I'm thinking it's probably best to get rid of them entirely in favor of this new forum. Also, I still have account creation disabled so let me know if you want to make an account.
Lastly, there's a new role called forum admin. I promoted Tim to one so that he can edit the Light World threads.
In other news:
Oh, I was meaning multiverse. I think I just used "universe" just to refer to that the settings are able to crossover. I'll fix that in my post.
For a few counterparts in the settings such as Krayhan, the Titans, Vernietigen and the like, I figured I'd retcon them so that they're actually the same entities across the settings and that they just traveled across time and space. Given that they're not bound by three dimensions, I figure they could get away with being in multiple places at once. So in some ways, the connective tissue is preserved although it's just a little different.
If you do have anything on Heroic Ages, I'd be happy to see it posted and uploaded. It could ignite some more inspiration with the other users and expand on the setting. Heck, I'll probably end up opening Miraculum Chronicles up to other users just to give it some more variety. So much of what I have there is only concentrated on a tiny segment of the world that everything else is pretty much up for grabs.
Last I heard, I believe Suppy got an offer for a university although I haven't talked to him in a while as he's been busy with personal stuff. Still, chances are Tapestry of Stars won't really be removed content-wise, but it would just be rebranded for organizational purposes.
Later on, we'll try to see if we can add a transparent background over the sidebar so that the dark colored backgrounds don't obscure it. Hopefully, more little aesthetic things like that can be implemented. Noble and I are still figuring out how a lot of these systems work, but we're getting there.
MAJOR UPDATE: We've figured out how to have different background images for each setting. Here's how it works
All you have to do is put a template on a page, like say Template:Galactic Crucibles or Template:Erudite Tales and the background changes automatically and even labels the page category accordingly. The templates themselves contain HTML code which is now fully customizable. If you want to edit the template, you can change the background image to whatever you desire, and in theory (haven't tested it) change the page's font and color scheme as well.
Bear in mind that this is still experimental. Imperfect, but the systems are in place now for it to be possible.
I know I've been very busy, so only now have I got around to writing all this. I would like to take this quick moment to clarify on the current plans for the Omniverse Nexus.
As we've continuously asserted that all of the settings take place in the same multiverse, the idea of their rigid separation is starting to feel obsolete. So instead, the setting label is going to be more of an indicator of what kind of style the story is written in. For example, even though the Omniverse Nexus is technically science fantasy, it would feel out of place to use Star Trek-type technobabble in a fantasy setting like Erudite Tales. Instead, we would keep writing in Erudite Tales using only mythical-type terms that the inhabitants of the United Plane would actually know. Settings would be nothing more than just the name of a collection of stories. Mini-franchises or IP's that share the same multiverse, like X-Men and the Avengers.
So for the time being, the only real reason to create a new setting is if it covers a specific type of genre that the others do not. So going down the list, we have the following:
As for Tapestry of Stars, I really haven't heard from Suppy on it. It is just an alternate version of Galactic Crucibles, so if we do end up updating it at some point, then it's going to get merged into another setting.
Due to the large amount of articles, it's probably easier just to reboot a few aspects. I'm looking to have no duplicates or alternate versions of anything just to eliminate confusion and to avoid watered down versions of other articles. The main two settings that this concerns is Myth Galaxy and Galactic Crucibles which share a lot of the same species and locations. So now, the two settings are going to be completely separated with their only connections being references to the overall Titan mythos.
But before we go removing articles and whatnot, first, let's clarify the way canon works. Nothing is too set in stone, and it's really up to interpretation. Much like Star Wars, there are canon priorities in the Nexus.
Any content by new users would be considered Tier 4 canon, or Tier 3 if there happens to be no contradictions. If they do enough to impress the other story writers/admins or their content becomes directly involved with other user creations, it has the potential to be promoted to Tier 2. And if it's really good, then it's Tier 1.
We should have maps for all the settings to give clear visual indicators as to where things are. We should also designate a specific present day, or at the very least, some kind of base year to go off of to help solidify the perspective. So for example, in Erudite Tales, the present day would be the Volveros Revolution. Myth Galaxy and Galactic Crucibles have some confusion, but here's what they are:
And lastly, the story infobox now has the options Genre, Timeframe and Era to help clarify as to when and where a story takes place.
So since we are changing it so that no locations are shared between settings, Galactic Crucibles is going to be significantly altered. First and foremost, any duplicate species and planets would be retconned as brand new content. Vaikan are different enough from the Dhragolon to stay the way they are, but other species like the Eteno and the Karnasaurs would have to be changed into something else.
The events of Chaos Crisis are implied to still be canon since we do have at least one story set during that time, but the events of Corrupted Light take canon priority.
Most of the old species would remain the same. However, the Omni in Myth Galaxy are a little redundant since Dark Prophecy focuses more on the Titans as being the precursors. Given that they are hardly mentioned, if at all, in Dark Prophecy and play no integral role to the plot, this minor detail isn't a huge concern as the focus is on the characters.
Just to broaden our perspectives, we shouldn't really have it so that one person owns a setting. What they own instead is just the storylines they create. We could have setting curators who are experts on all the associated lore though, but we can rank any articles by new users as either Tier 4 or Tier 5 canon until they get properly integrated if they want to at all.
We need to make sure people can actually find out what they are supposed to be reading. So site navigation is a priority. Noble has been hard at work, experimenting with CSS and HTML to create flashier looking user pages (which I may or may not have tactically acquired), and to make the site look better and more professional overall.
Mass importation of articles is not as important as sometimes, it's easier just to rebuild things from the ground up. Don't be too concerned about the canon for now. Instead, I would concentrate on just creating good stories. The stories are what people find easiest to read and follow. If they are curious about additional lore, they can always delve into the other articles for more information.
I hope that clarifies things. Let me know if you have any further questions.
Fair enough on the archived articles. Less work overall, so taking that into account, importation for Erudite Tales is almost complete. For Galactic Crucibles and Myth Galaxy, I'm still deciding on how to handle the articles that appear in both settings, but right now I'm thinking that if the MG articles are similar enough, they would redirect to their GC counterparts given that GC seems to be the type of setting that would have more technical info.
For the essays, I'll go ahead and create the namespace. I don't have any to upload myself at the moment, but I'll put some up if come up with any new ideas.
So as most of you know, most of the work that's been going on with the new site has been all about importing articles from across all wikias and labeling them with their respective settings. I've mostly been doing either my own articles, the articles of active users (specifically ones that are used in crossovers) or general articles that play an important role in the overall continuity. However, as I've been combing these wikias for content to import, I've thought of a few questions for all of you:
Also, about the whole changing backgrounds depending on categories, after some research, I've found that it's definitely possible, but it will require the creation of a custom skin. It will just be a matter of me figuring out how to actually code it. For now, the priority is still importing articles since we still need content to look at, but I'll keep working and trying to figure things out.
We just passed 200 articles on the new wiki! Here are the number of articles in each setting so far:
Alright. Working on it. Let me know of any other common extensions you want me to add.
Update: Installed it. Just note that it uses different syntax from wikia using "random" and "item" rather than "choose" and "option".
So far so good! I like the formatting.
Status update: There's over 80+ articles now. Hallowed Worlds (the new stuff at least) and Miraculum Chronicles are fully imported. Still a while to go for the other settings, but for me personally, I'll only be doing imports for Erudite Tales, Galactic Crucibles and Myth Galaxy since I have a significant amount of articles there. A few more guides and stories have been imported, and several stories were also marked as featured on the front page.
Right now, I'm just focusing on getting content out there so that there's something to look at. Once the migration process is complete, I'll begin concentrating on aesthetics and organization.
I'm having the issue as well. I went to that line of code, and even turned off the security systems for a bit, but the error is still showing up. I'm guessing it's an issue with the MediaWiki software, so I'm going to try to comb the help pages for a solution.
I've been thinking of just going with option 2: Article_Name_(Galactic_Crucibles), but omit the parentheses part if the content is unique to only that setting. Say, a species only found ET wouldn't require it, but all the different versions of Humans would. I'd definitely like to keep the Story namespace since as you pointed out, it would help shorten the URL.
I pitched this idea to Psi the other day, but I've been thinking that one way to better distinguish the articles and their settings was to implement some kind of dynamic background that changes depending on what category a page is set to. I'm not quite that fluent CSS so I wouldn't know how to do it exactly, but just from what I've researched, I believe something like this should be possible if it hasn't been done already. (EDIT: What do you think of this?)
Oh, and for the URL, I'll look into getting rid of all that php stuff. Shouldn't be that hard to do hopefully.
Update: On another note, I'm putting together a terms of service for the wiki. Yeah, it's boring legal stuff, but it's important. Before uploading it though, I'll put up the draft here so that you guys can read over it.
Thanks! It seems I have to do some extra configuration to allow the actual logo to be an .svg file though. To my knowledge, it should be possible, but it requires some extra extensions.
@Wiki,
Changed the LocalSettings.php file to allow it for it, but seeing as I don't have a program on my computer that can create svg files, I can't really test it myself at the moment. Let me know if it works.
I spent some time thinking about the technical structure of the settings, and I came up with a few things:
The separate wikis idea seems to be more cosmetic and navigational than anything else considering that they all share the same structure, rules, guides, etc. And given that we're already planning crossovers between settings, the lines between wikis are already becoming quite blurry. So instead of having multiple wikis, I'm thinking we should just have articles across the entire Omniverse Nexus on just one wiki. It sounds disorganized, but hear me out.
Because the appearance is just cosmetic, if we could find a way to have some kind of dynamic background/skin that changes depending on what setting an article takes place in (specifically, it would change depending on what category the article is assigned to), we could achieve the same effect as having multiple wikis. The reason why I'm considering this is because adding new subdomains can be very inefficient since you have to install MediaWiki all over again when you do so, and in the future when we possibly get an influx of writers, it will be easier to create new settings or even allow articles that aren't part of any setting such as the stand-alone stories seen in Creativity Unleashed. I can't really find any working examples of this idea so it looks like something we'll have to create it specifically for the wiki.